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Classic Albums: 'Mama Said Knock You Out' by LL COOL J

Classic Albums: 'Mama Said Knock You Out' by LL COOL J

Published Sat, April 30, 2022 at 9:00 AM EDT

"I was definitely watching him. He had something special really early on."

Marley Marl was curious about working with LL COOL J. The superproducer had helmed hits by everyone from Heavy D & The Boyz to Big Daddy Kane; having launched the ladder in orbit via Marley's famed Juice Crew. That collective of soon-to-be-legendary emcees included Biz Markie, Roxanne Shante, MC Shan, Craig G and Kool G Rap—all among the elite rappers in Hip-Hop. But LL COOL J was Def Jam's megastar, and Cold Chillin' was the competition. Nonetheless, it was the reception to LL's third album, 1989's Walking With A Panther, that brought him into Marley's circle.

"I never thought I would have been able to work with him," Marley told RTB in 2020. "I was always a new music supporter. I had a show called 'In Control' and I asked Brian — who was his manager at the time — to bring him up to the radio station so we could interview him about the album. I knew the album wasn't really what the streets wanted. But I'm a producer and a remixer. So I always feel like this…it’s never over because you can always remix and fix songs on an album. When he came to see me at the radio station, I was like, 'Yo bro, there’s a song that I like on your album that I know I can fix.' And he's, 'What song is that?' I was like, 'Yo, the one that says, 'Running over n****s like a redneck trucker.' He said, "Oh, that's 'Jingling Baby.'”

LL was prepping to answer his critics. He was being branded a shallow playboy at the height of "Fight the Power" and "Self Destruction."

"I definitely had a chip on my shoulder and I was disappointed about the critical response," LL COOL J said of the reception to ...Panther. "I felt people were mischaracterizing the album cover and the vibe, and didn't understand that we were celebrating success. They looked at the diamonds, jewelry, and cars as a sign of me being disconnected. When in reality, I was just living out my hustler dreams and that's just what I always wanted to do. And that was just how a young Black man displayed his success. I was more connected than ever. I was just running with the hustlers and hanging out and vibing."

That connectivity may have been ignored by critics and audiences when it came to Walking With A Panther, but on Mama Said Knock You Out, LL's spirit and sound was in sync with the streets. The Marley-produced hit "Around The Way Girl" was a chance for the rap star to shout-out the neighborhood girls he'd grown up with in Queens and who still made up a huge chunk of his audience.

"The song ['Around The Way Girl'] hits home," Big Lez shared in 2020. "Because I am that chick who grew up with jams in the park, rocking my Lee jeans, my bamboo earrings, my name chain; East Elmhurst, Jackson Heights, the Jamaica Mart off Jamaica Avenue – I am that girl. So hearing that song title, I was like 'Is he talking about me?' We're the girls sitting on the benches, watching the basketball. I would never think that people still recognize me as the girl from that video."

The music video was directed by Paris Barclay. They shot it the same weekend as the iconic video for the album's famed title track.

Leslie Segar was an aspiring dancer in New York City, eager to be in her first major music video. "I had been dancing in the New York City club scene," Lez says of those early days. "And in the 90s, that's when artists and all the radio executives hung out in the clubs. That's where my work generated; I was the chick battling all the guys in the clubs."

"6 Minutes Of Pleasure" was another loverman ode, but the video gave LL a chance to indulge in his goofier sensibilities.

"This one was all about being silly," LL explains, breaking down the zany visuals of "6 minutes Of Pleasure." The "6 Minutes Of Pleasure" video is one of LL COOL J's most unique and unusual, with the Hip-Hop superstar in full playpen mode. "We just wanted a ridiculous wonderland! I just wanted to be a fool! This was my playful side." Marley Marl guest stars in the surreal clip. 

"If you look at that coat carefully, it's like all teddy bears," a chuckling LL added, explaining a distinctively furry ensemble in the vid. "All over that joint."

MAMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT boasts hit after hit. The singles are exceptionally strong: and "Boomin' System" was a smash with the car crowd.

This car anthem classic made it clear that James Todd Smith knew a thing or three about having a dope-ass system in your car. A sentiment that resonated with heads from Queens to Cali, LL perfectly tapped into the energy of riding around with the system loud as hell.

The video for "Boomin' System" has a Mad Max-like theme: half sci-fi epic, half on-the-run getaway flick—with adult film actress Petra co-starring.  "This was crazy. I remember how this all looked—the vibe," LL says with a laugh. "This was like my Shaka Zulu vibe."

Marley's work on Mama Said Knock You Out would be a benchmark for the legendary superproducer. And the album cuts are as noteworthy as the singles: the topical "Illegal Search" addresses driving while Black; "The Power of God" champions spirituality. "To Da Break of Dawn" is one of LL's most scathing disses; as he turns his sights on Ice-T, MC Hammer, once again, his most famous rival, Kool Moe Dee. The kinetic "Murdergram" is a lyrical tour-de-force that stands as one of LL's best verbal showcases.

But the centerpiece of Mama Said Knock You Out is its indelible title track. It's an anthem for the ages and a seminal moment in the legacy of James Todd Smith as an artist and an emcee.

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"That beat was nuts."

"I just thought it was crazy," LL recalled in 2020. "Bob was always super creative, super talented, and was always about it. When I heard it I was like, "'Yo, let's get it!' We were running around in the condo."

Bobcat's beat was an all-timer.

"I originally recorded the 'Mama Said Knock You Out' beat in 1989 with my group Microphone Mafia (Threat, K-Born, and Nefertiti)," explained Bobcat in 2020. "It was the West Coast’s version of the Juice Crew’s 'The Symphony.' Threat was the West Coast Rakim. K-Born was like G-Rap. and Nefertiti was like MC Lyte. Before that, I recorded it with another group I had called Menace to Society. Every producer always had that track that all the MC's want to get on. So the 'Microphone Mafia Anthem' was it."

With Mama Said Knock You Out, LL COOL J affirmed that longevity in Hip-Hop meant navigating critics and haters. Nobody's career voyage is without some rocky waters, and on his fourth album, the icon from Farmers proved that true talent doesn't fold under pressure. Up until the success of Mama Said..., it could be argued that very few rappers had successfully bounced back from a significant backlash. LL provided a blueprint for how to push through as an artist and come out stronger in a genre that can be notoriously fickle.

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